Heaven Is Whenever the fifth hold steady album was produced by dean baltulonis (who also produced the band's breakthrough 'separation sunday') and marks the first time the group have recorded without recently departed keyboardist franz nicolay. Singer craig finn says 'heaven is whenever' is about "embracing suffering and understanding its place in a joyful life. the lyrics speak a lot about struggle and reward." piano and keys take a backseat to guitar on the record, which also gets production help from guitarist tad kubler. 'heaven is whenever' has a bit more open space and is less anthemic and more complex.